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Congratulations to your daughter and to you!!! A much bigger accomplishment given the background of repression of ideas and personal pursuits.
I am quite confident that I will post this kind of photo in two years about my daughter and five years from now about my son.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
I conclude evolution is guided
Then the deity guiding evolution has produced so much waste. That's OK for us imperfect humans, but not for the creator of the universe to have so many defective, unfit species and individuals (99.99%) over billions of years. Also, why would it take him 3.8 billion years (history of life on earth) to come with up with his "wonderful" present designs. Even imperfect humans can do better given that long a time. Look at the human accomplishments just in the last 200 years. How much can they do in 3,8000,000,000 years. Look out God, The creators of artificial intelligence are going to out do your designs very soon. In fact, they are doing it now. Your guided process of producing food became insufficient many decades or even centuries ago. It took human ingenuity to improve your inefficient evolutionary process to produce food.
jws have one of the worst, if not the worst, retention rates among their kids.
i've seen numbers from 65% to 88% who leave, never to return.. you'd think this would be a priority amongst the leadership, right?
where do tomorrow's leaders come from, if the vast majority of kids leave the organization?
This is why religious fundamentalist, the homophobic, the racists of the white KKK and black KKK have no chance of growing in the future. Here's a picture of kids from California arriving in Japan. They are in a cultural exchange where once a year we host for two weeks students from Japan or South Korea and they reciprocate. My son and 10 friends are staying for two weeks with a Japanese family that speaks almost no English. What's so cool about these kids. They are a cross section of the U.S. and the world. They are children of immigrants from all over the world, from every corner of Europe (Spain, Italy, Romania, Germany), the middle East (Iran) the Philipines, Latin America, Africa. They are descendants of the white, the brown, the yellow and the black. They are completely indifferent to their peers' religion, country of origin, sexual orientation, skin color. They don't care about your long or short dress, your purple hair, your tattoo, your ring on the nose. they are internet savvy. They are attending higher education institutions
The governing body has no chance against "this generation"
My son is blocking the bottom of the "P" in Japan
after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
So far I have been a faithful follower of Slimboyfat example. I said good bye twice only to come back a short time later.
OK. I will do whatever Slim does.
I wish you well everyone. I'm out of here for good!
Felipe
i found this pew data of passing interest.
it flies in the face of what i have seen in english congregations, but when i think of all the spanish congregations, it made sense.
jws show fewer senior members than mainline churches.
Quite promising expansion expectations for Hindus, Muslims, agnostics and atheists. JW's are in the middle of the range, but these statistics don't and can't factor in the myriad of problems the JW leadership is facing right now. I think JW's are going to move up rather rapidly towards the top of that table in the coming decades.
i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.
my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.
i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.
Welcome,
I am sorry about your daughter. I am glad that now that you are free, you will be able to deal with it in the best manner possible.
I am also very glad that your family made it out without leaving anyone behind. Just curious, How many of your family left? If you go back to the days of Russell, the potential can be even hundreds, but I suspect is a lot less than that.
hey all, .
this is my first post.
i haven't been out in service or to a meeting in over a month.. i realize now that i've been having serious questions for years and many articles and talks have greatly disturbed me over the years.
Welcome Sevan,
Always happy to see another woman wake up. Going by gender, women are far more mistreated than men.. They work harder and get the least recognition, if any.
Great post. Thank you. I hope your journey to fade is successful and the process of waking up your husband is a swift as yours. One can only hope.
russian church welcomes shutdown of "moscow church of scientology".
moscow, july 1, interfax - the russian orthodox church has welcomed a ruling by the russian supreme court which yesterday upheld the legality of a shutdown of the "church of scientology of moscow".
"the upholding by the supreme court of the legality of the shutdown of the so-called church of scientology is seen as an important precedent demonstrating the state's determination not to recognize as religious those organizations that use people's religious feeling for malign purposes, " russian orthodox church spokesman vakhtang kipshidze told interfax-religion.the ruling in the scientologists' case is not a breach of the religious freedom since "it was proved in court that the very activity of this organization is an affront to human freedom as such," kipshidze said.the russian orthodox church regularly comes into contact with people whose membership in totalitarian sects left them deeply wounded spiritually and mentally, ruined their lives and happiness, the spokesman said.
It didn't work out so well for the Romans
Yes, 2,000 years ago people were more superstitious, mostly illiterate and had no internet. I wouldn't compare two societies that are not comparable.
hello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
Go and don't leave until the end of the reunion. Or don't go at all. Nothing half way.
i haven't been on here much, but every so often i try and keep up with the discussions.
i'm sure this topic has been talked about before, so my apologies in advance if i'm repeating.. a little about me.... i'm a non baptized jw married to a devout jw.
both my husband and i were raised in the organization.
